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18. A Dad’s Perspective – with Dr. Jay Warren

On today’s episode, Elle sits down with Dr. Jay Warren, a prenatal and pediatric chiropractor in San Diego. He is the host of two popular podcasts, “Healthy Births, Happy Babies,” and “The Dadhood Journey.” He is also an ICPA instructor, and has created online courses to help pregnant women learn prenatal bonding techniques, as well as a New Dads Class that helps men with the transition to fatherhood. Jay comes on the show to talk about how (specifically) men experience their partner going through labor and birth, the male archetypes of Protector and Provider and how these can be translated into the birthing room in a productive manner, and what postpartum depression looks like in men and how to find and look for help and support in your community and friend groups.

“Regardless of where you’re gunna be birthing, I think that experience can be so powerful, and so beautiful, and such a happy, healthy launch into parenthood and as a family together.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“You just don’t know what you don’t know.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“What I really got out of it was just how important the birth team around us was, not just for mom, but for me as well.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“I think it’s so important for dads to learn what natural birth looks like!” – Dr. Jay Warren

“A lot of dads have a hard time in birth because they’re seeing – we’re seeing our partner in pain, suffering, having difficulty, and those kind of things, and we want to fix it!” – Dr. Jay Warren.

“It’s coming from the Protector that’s wanting to protect her from the birthing pain… Instead, let’s use the Protector to protect the space of the birth.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“We all have that protective nature inside of us that we can tap into when we need it… You have to know when it’s needed and when it’s not, and how to channel that constructively.” – Elle Kennedy

“We can have these kind of conversations before the birth and say like ‘These are amazing things that you can do that are incredible supports that’s going to be doing something and supportive of your partner.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“It sounds passive, because you have this pent up energy of like ‘I need to slay the dragon!’” – Elle Kennedy

“Most men think like ‘Well, this is like, a woman’s experience. Like, what am I doing there?’” – Dr. Jay Warren

“We belong at the birth. It’s just very new and we don’t have generational references – like, we’re not hearing from our dads what they did. So we can – that information and knowledge and wisdom can be passed down. And it’s brand new culturally, so there isn’t a lot of conversation amongst peers around ‘This is what birth is like and what you can do.’ There’s a big shift going on, and it’s brand new.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“I really want dads to understand that this is powerfully bonding for you and your child.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“If dads can be fully immersed in the oxytocin experience of the birth and, like, bathed in that as well as mom and baby, then the triad of mom, dad, and baby is gunna launch into parenthood in a totally different way than if dad thinks he’s gotta kind of, like, jump in later on down the line.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“The expectations placed on dads now is very different than a generation ago.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“I think absolutely a doula is important, because they’re taking such a different kind of supportive role that helps everyone involved, but it’s not replacing dad, nor is a dad replacing a doula.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“The dad, the partner, the birthing person – this is their first, second, maybe third or fourth time going through this. But your doula is experienced. They know what normal physiological birth looks like. This is their job. This is what they do day in, day out. This is what they have studied, and done research on, and taken classes and trainings and webinars, and all of the things to offer this specific kind of support.” – Elle Kennedy

“I am still learning. I am still hearing new information. Every person – every single person – we have on the show, whether it is a birth professional or whether it is somebody just coming on to share their birth story – I am learning from them, and I’m absorbing their stories and their information and I bring that into that space. I bring that knowledge of ‘This is what physiological birth can look like. This is what physiological birth is.’” – Elle Kennedy

“A lot of birthing people don’t realize they won’t admit you to a hospital or birthing center until you are x amount along… On average, it’s 5-6 centimeters… but your doula can still come to your home and help you while you’re birthing there because I think a lot of people don’t realize it’s still gunna take time to get to that five, six centimeter mark.” – Elle Kennedy

“I’ve seen women go into birth with a specific birth plan: ‘This is how it’s gunna be. I took the birth class. I know how it’s all gunna work.’ And when it doesn’t go that way, on the other side there’s a lot of disillusionment, there can be anger, all kinds of emotion around it because it didn’t go ‘to plan.’ Which, you know, as a birthing professional, like, we know that rarely ever happens.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“This wasn’t what I planned, but this is what it is.” – Elle Kennedy

“‘This is the story that’s being written.’ And we have to learn: what are the mechanisms that we personally need to cope with the story that’s being written? Because we don’t have all of the control. A lot of it is out of our hands.” – Elle Kennedy

“When you’re in the middle of this story, I mean, there was an ending of it, but the perspective hasn’t yet come to that experience to understand the story.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“I don’t wish that experience on myself every again, or anyone else, but this is what I can gain from it. But when you’re in the middle of it, like, you’re not at that time yet.” – Dr. Jay Warren

“Postpartum depression exists in males as well.” – Dr. Jay Warren

Listen to the episode here.

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Today’s guest: Dr. Jay Warren

Dr. Jay Warren is a prenatal and pediatric chiropractor in San Diego where he works with new families everyday. Dr. Jay is the host of two popular podcasts “Healthy Births, Happy Babies” and “The Dadhood Journey”, as well as an instructor for the ICPA (International Chiropractic Pediatric Association). He has created online courses helping pregnant women learn prenatal bonding techniques and a New Dads Class that helps men with the transition into fatherhood. He is also the proud father to his son, Niko, who inspires him to strive to be a better person and better dad everyday.

You can find him on Instagram @doctorjaywarren and Facebook at Dr. Jay Warren and on his website drjaywarren.com

Resources related to today’s episode:

Chiropractic for Pregnancy – with Dr. Taylor Garcia

Elle’s Birth Story

Amanda’s Birth Story

Dr. Jay’s New Dad Class

9 Myths About Becoming a Dad

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

17. Celebration of Birth – with Yaya Atabey Samudra

On today’s episode, Elle and Taylor sit down with Yaya Atabey Samudra, an Afro-Indigenous Queer + Trans Herbalist, Activist, Full-Spectrum Birthworker, Artist and Initiated Womb Healer based in Los Angeles, CA. They discuss the sacredness of birth, how to initiate ceremony and celebration back into the birth space, the four feminine archetypes period-having people go through, and how to move through our lives following our energy levels during the different phases of our moon cycles to tap into the Divine within us.

“This is a ceremony! You welcoming a new being into this world. This is also a ceremony for you as parents and birthing persons to go through a rites of passage.” – Yaya Atabey Samudra

“If you are a menstruating person, you naturally go through what we refer to as the four feminine archetypes through your menstrual cycle each month. So it starts with the maiden, it goes into the enchantress, the mother, and then the crone.” – Yaya Atabey Samudra

“Traditionally speaking, the crone was looked at as the wise woman. That was the person you went to because she had all of the knowledge… they were honored and respected by the society.” – Elle Kennedy

“How do we respect the phases we go through?” – Taylor Garcia

“Gut knowledge is really womb knowledge.” – Yaya Atabey Samudra

“When you are pregnant, you are descending. So think about a spiral – and the womb is also symbolized by a spiral, or a mandala – you are starting from the outer edge and you are walking your way all the way in. And once you get to the middle, that’s essentially when you are going through labor. And then after labor, in the postpartum phase, you are walking out. And this walk, it continues until you are in the crone stage, which is the very end of the mandala.” – Yaya Atabey Samudra

“”We are descending into the underworld of ourselves.” – Yaya Atabey Samudra

“You need to go through that – this underworld – on your own.” – Yaya Atabey Samudra

“Birth can be healing. It doesn’t have to be traumatic. It doesn’t have to be pain and suffering. It can be light and healing and joyful and courageous. It can be all of this beauty.” – Elle Kennedy

“Acknowledge the cycles of nature. We are aware of it to some extent, but we don’t recognize it as something that happens within us, and we don’t recognize that connection we have with nature.” – Yaya Atabey Samudra

“In birth, when you’re going through that rites of passage, it’s really important to remember that you are a wisdom keeper now.” – Yaya Atabey Samudra

Listen to the episode here.

Join the Birth Re-Imagined Family Facebook group to engage with other open-minded parents, connect with birth professionals in the Southern California area, and stay up to date on our newest episodes as they drop every week!

Today’s guest: Yaya Atabey Samudra

Yaya Atabey Samudra is an Afro-Indigenous Queer + Trans Herbalist, Activist, Full-Spectrum Birthworker, Artist and Initiated Womb Healer based in Los Angeles, CA. Yaya comes from a long lineage of Afro-Carribean Womb Keepers, Midwives, Medicine Men & Women. Their Ancestors are at the forefront of their work, their artistry and their personal healing. Yaya’s dream is to open a space for herbal consultations, community gatherings centered around womb healing, medicine ceremonies and eco-farming. As an artist, Yaya has recently integrated their visual art with herbalism through the medium of tattooing. After a three year apprenticeship, their vision is to tattoo plant medicine, sacred geometry and other hieroglyphic symbols along the body for activation and alchemical transmutation.

You can find them on Instagram @TheWombMystic and on their website thewombmystic.com or by email thewombmystic@gmail.com

Resources mentioned on today’s episode:

Elle’s Birth Story

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

16. Kate’s Birth Story: Miscarriage, Infertility, Natural Childbirth, Foster-care, and Adoption

On today’s episode, Elle and Taylor sit down with Kate Bean, a mother of 3 lively boys, and former and future foster mom. Kate shares her emotional journey with suspected PCOS, multiple miscarriages, the birth of two biological children, foster care, and adoption.

Her first pregnancy was a surprise, and she had no issues conceiving, through pregnancy, or during birth. But when she and her husband decided to have a second child, they were led on a journey of multiple miscarriages and infertility. They had always planned on fostering and possibly adopting, and during this time, they were contacted and asked to take in a boy to foster.

After her second miscarriage, they decided to open themselves up as foster to adopt parents. Right after this, Kate became pregnant again. Two weeks later, they received a call asking if they would like to foster a 13-month old with the possibility to adopt. They said yes!

She shares the heartwarming story of meeting her adoptive son for the first time, and the beautiful moment her soul recognized his.

“The case worker showed up at our door on a Friday night. I opened the door to this little boy, and my heart said ‘Hello, son.’” – Kate Bean

“It was this amazing, beautiful moment of ‘Here’s my child! Here is my son!’” – Kate Bean

“Our bodies were created to give birth, and I want to experience it. I wanna be fully present. I just want to be all-in.” – Kate Bean

“Once you tell someone they can’t do something, or, you tell ME, mmm mm-mm. Like, hold my wine. Watch this.” – Kate Bean

“I just felt so powerful when it was over!” – Kate Bean

“There’s this kind of magic that you tap in to when you have a baby, and it is unlike anything else you experience.” – Elle

“We are all awesome! We create life and we bring forth life into this world however it comes, and that is amazing and miraculous!” – Kate Bean

She talks about “leaning into the pain,” rather than fighting, and how that surrender made labor and childbirth easier when she trusted her body to do what it was made to do, and let go of the fear of the next contraction.

She opens up and talks about the heartbreak and the difficulties of going through multiple miscarriages, and the bittersweet feelings of sending a foster child back to their biological family.

“Our family does the hard things. We do the hard things. We don’t quit. I know it’s hard.” – Kate Bean

“We do the hard things, because in the end, it’s worth it.” – Kate Bean

“You can’t give up hope. Hope is the one thing that we have to cling to.” – Kate Bean

“Your journey to parenthood may look very different than what you imagined or what you hoped it would look like. But any journey to parenthood is a beautiful journey and is worth it.” – Kate Bean

“Your story is a beautiful story – it’s just still being written.” – Kate Bean

Listen to the episode here.

Join the Birth Re-Imagined Family Facebook group to engage with other open-minded parents, connect with birth professionals in the Southern California area, and stay up to date on our newest episodes as they drop every week!

Today’s guest: Kate Bean

Kate Bean is the wife of Taylor’s cousin, Eric, mom to three lively boys, former and future foster mama, and while she holds two master’s degrees, she currently works part-time from home as an administrative assistant so she can be with her boys.

She loves to read and go camping with her family. Her guilty pleasure is the Bachelor and the Bachelorette, and she can often be found daydreaming about the one week she and Eric spent in Cancun without kids.

Resources related to today’s episode:

Jesus Feminist

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

15. Acupuncture During Pregnancy – with Dr. Devin Geser

On today’s episode, Elle and Taylor sit down with Dr. Devin Geser, a board certified and licensed acupuncture pediatrician practicing in Los Angeles, California. She specializes in pediatric integrative functional medicine. Devin also teaches yoga and meditation along with volunteering for Acupuncturists Without Borders providing free interventional community crisis care. They discuss acupuncture and how it can help with a myriad of different pregnancy-related symptoms (like morning sickness, breech babies, aches and pains, labor induction, etc) as well as the spiritual nature of pregnancy. They talk about ancestry and how genetics are linked across time and how those links affect our health and the health of our children.

“Acupuncture as medicine has been around for a little over 4,000 years.” – Dr. Devin

“Utilizing acupuncture in pregnancy helps ensure a healthy pregnancy, an easy pregnancy, as well as safe and efficient deliveries.” – Dr. Devin

“Children who grow up loved do better.” – Dr. Devin

“Being brought up in love is such a key component to a healthy baby.” – Taylor

“Our generation is becoming very very aware of the generational trauma that we’ve inherited and trying to undo some of that so that the burden is lessened on our children.” – Elle

“I believe that how you come forth can mean something, but also how you live your life can mean as much.” – Dr. Devin

“We’re not human doings, we’re human beings.” – Dr. Devin

“Your genetics are the gun, basically. But HOW you live your life – those are the bullets. So what you do to load that weapon is what ultimately makes the difference.” – Dr. Devin

“Are you going to be a bullet, or are you gunna be a confetti cannon?” – Elle

“Birth is birth, no matter what it looks like.” – Elle

“Your needs and wants are valid, period. Your needs and wants are valid.” – Elle

“As a provider, I’m doing everything I can to make that easy, efficient, natural, drug-free labor an OPTION.” – Dr. Devin

“My goal with every mom, with every parent, is to give them as many tools as possible.” – Dr. Devin

“That’s the goal with life! To learn new things!” – Dr. Devin

“The more support we can provide, you know, in this village, the better outcomes we see in maternal-fetal medicine.” – Dr. Devin

“You have to give your body time to recover, and profoundly, deeply rest, and be nourished and nurtured as a new mother.” – Dr. Devin

“This is the first time in human history that we haven’t been living in this village setting.” – Dr. Devin

“I believe that we are made to evolve, and our minds are what evolve.” – Dr. Devin

Listen to the episode here.

Join the Birth Re-Imagined Family Facebook group to engage with other open-minded parents, connect with birth professionals in the Southern California area, and stay up to date on our newest episodes as they drop every week!

Today’s guest: Dr. Devin Geser

Devin Geser, L.Ac. Dipl. O.M. is a board certified and licensed acupuncture pediatrician practicing in Los Angeles, California. Devin was educated at UCLA and AJU, she attended medical school at Dong Guk University. She specializes in pediatric integrative functional medicine. Devin also teaches yoga and meditation along with volunteering for Acupuncturists Without Borders providing free interventional community crisis care. Devin is an associate at West Hollywood’s Vie Healing and also sees concierge patients for housecalls.

You can find her on Instagram @acupuncture.alchemy, on her website www.lakehollywoodacu.com or at 424-248-7436.

Resources related to today’s episode:

Acupressure Resources

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

14. Parenting LGBTQ+ Kids – with Ellie Dote

On today’s episode, Elle sits down with Ellie Dote, a transgender, lesbian woman who has a deep and beautiful relationship with Christ. They discuss being LGBTQ+ while raising LGBTQ+ kids, the experiences we’ve had that have shaped how we parent our LGBTQ+ kids, and the things that we think society and individuals need to think about and find solutions for to make our communities safer and more accepting for people across every spectrum.

“What you are on the outside is not necessarily what you are on the inside.” – Elle

“I liked that book! There was a kid like me in it! They were a boy AND a girl! Just like me!” – Teddy

“Just seeing Teddy lean into that freedom has just been so good!” – Elle

“I’m 30 and I’m STILL learning to say ‘This is who I am!’” – Elle

“I didn’t even realize that the transgender community was a possibility or a thing until I was 40.” – Ellie Dote

“I knew that there was something different from a very early age, but I didn’t necessarily know what.” – Ellie Dote

“There’s a lot of criticism – ‘why do we have all these labels?’ And honestly, if you didn’t have those labels, it would be really hard for people to say ‘Me too!’” – Elle

“In reality, do we need them? Mmm, maybe not. But we do need them for our society to give words to an experience.” – Ellie Dote

“I think of it as the way you see a true rainbow. It’s not broken up into separate colors that are completely distinct from each other. They bleed into each other and they overlap and there are some shades that you aren’t quite sure – ‘Is it really blue or is it really purple? It’s just kind of both.’” – Elle

“You have to see the spectrum in the media, because for some people, that’s their only experience. So, not only do we have to see LGBTQ people and people of all colors represented in media – we need to see those people in all kinds of positions, in all kinds of variations of relationships and coming out stories and discovering yourself stories, because, like you said, not everybody’s story is the same.” – Elle

“How can I make my kid’s journey better than my journey was?” – Elle

“The big thing that I’ve discovered is really just being willing to listen. To listen to our experiences, and to find common ground. The biggest thing that we have in common is that we’re all human, we’re all taking up space on this earth, and we’re all living in this community.” – Ellie Dote

“And that is the most important thing – is to listen to each other’s stories and see the tapestry that is woven together for our society and our community, and appreciate that.” – Ellie Dote

“How do I wish the people around me had responded when I had disclosed to them? And that’s what I’m trying to bring to Teddy.” – Elle

“If your child doesn’t come to you for answers, doesn’t feel comfortable asking you these questions, and you haven’t created a space for them to have these conversations, then they are going to find the answers somewhere else. And the places where they get the answers could be disastrous, could be risky, and could be… could put their own life in danger.” – Ellie Dote

“I think that it is VITALLY important as parents that we provide that space to listen to our kids and to allow them to ask questions, and to not be afraid to have these tough conversations. Because the consequences of not being able to are too big of a price to pay.” – Ellie Dote

“It’s not enough to just say “Oh, my kids know I’m accepting, my kids know I’m x, y, and z. It is still hard for your kid. It is something that we have to be proactive with because there is such a stigma. There is such a fear around these conversations.” – Ellie Dote

“We need to normalize being more human in front of our kids and letting them see more of the range of emotions other than happy, authoritatrian, and angry.” – Elle

“We have built a society where it’s not ok to show weakness, and that is something that needs to change.” – Ellie Dote

 

We do offer a Content Warning for today’s episode, as we do briefly discuss the topics of suicide and risky behavior.

Listen to the episode here.

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Today’s guest:

Darryl Dote was born and raised in Southern California, where he found an early place in music ministry within the Catholic Church.  What he didn’t know at the time was that he was using his identity as “church musician” as a way to hide from the real battle over her identity.  When adolescence began to set in, he quickly learned that his role in music ministry wasn’t as authentic as he needed it to be – and so he left the Catholic Church in search of something deeper – and found it in Evangelical Christianity, where he went to Bible College and pursued a career in full time ministry.  After getting married and starting a family, Darryl continued on this path – until he couldn’t hide it anymore.

In 2016, after receiving the devastating news that he was HIV positive, Darryl was left to face the questions surrounding his identity head-on – and shortly after that, it was discovered that Darryl wasn’t the 40 year old cisgender heterosexual male that he had grown up as – he was really Ellie, a young woman that had been fighting to be seen for her entire life.

In early 2017, Ellie began taking her first steps, and 2019 found her divorced, living back in Southern California, and a single mom to her youngest child.  Her journey and experience in ministry has allowed her to have conversations with various church leaders about the LGBTQ+ community and inclusion.  She is currently working (slowly) on a memoir, and regularly shares her thoughts on the intersection of her trans identity, the LGBTQ+ community, and her faith as a Christian on her blog, elliedote.com.

You can find her on Facebook and on her website elliedote.com and Ellie can be found on myspace.

Resources related to today’s episode:

If you or someone you know is in crisis, please call the national suicide prevention hotline at 800-273-8255.

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

Red by Michael Hall

Resources regarding Faith and LGBTQ

Orange County LGBTQ Center

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

13. Pelvic Floor Relaxation – with Dr. Whitney Sippl

On today’s episode, Elle and Taylor sit down with Dr. Whitney Sippl, a women’s health physical therapist and a women’s clinical specialist. They discuss pelvic floor relaxation, how to prepare your pelvic floor for birth, and easy steps and actions you can take to help get your pelvic floor health back to normal after birth. She uses a ton of easy to understand metaphors to explain all of the concepts she talks about, and makes it super easy to understand, even if you don’t currently know anything about the pelvic floor!

Whitney starts by explaining what the pelvic floor is, and its importance before, during, and after birth. She dives into the myths surrounding the pelvic floor (that it’s “normal” to have pelvic pain during pregnancy, to have incontinence issues postpartum, and painful sex after delivering), and how these can be addressed with a pelvic floor physical therapist.

“We don’t have to just live with annoying or painful symptoms during pregnancy or postpartum, and that it’s common to have this symptoms, but it’s never normal.” – Whitney Sippl

Busting Myths:

“Kegels don’t fix everything.” – Whitney Sippl

“Tightness doesn’t equal strength.” – Whitney Sippl

“[During birth] our pelvic floor doesn’t do the pushing.” – Whitney Sippl

“Strength is great to have, but for birth we actually want really good relaxation of the pelvic floor.” – Whitney Sippl

“Our body’s natural response to pain or discomfort is to tense and guard, and a tense muscle is more likely to tear. So if we can relax the muscles as much as we can during labor, then that’s one way that we can help prevent tearing.” – Whitney Sippl

Whitney then discusses perineal massage and perineal prep, the goal of perineal preparation, and how to do it. She talks step by step through perineal prep, how to do it, how often to do it, how long it should take, and the differences between the birthing person doing it themselves vs the birthing partner helping with it.

She also talks about the correct way to do a Kegel. She explains several different visuals to help you find the proper muscles for a Kegel, how important it is to relax fully in between Kegels, and how to make sure you are doing Kegels properly.

Listen to the episode here.

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Today’s guest:

Dr. Whitney Sippl is a women’s health physical therapist and a women’s clinical specialist.  She treats women in their homes throughout Orange County and at a clinic in Costa Mesa through her company Restored Physique Physical Therapy and she teaches free monthly classes at OC birth centers and speaks for various moms groups.  She also provides two online classes for women, one discussing topics related to Prenatal physical health and labor prep and one discussing Postpartum recovery.  She’s passionate about promoting awareness, well-being, and healing with a goal of empowering women during the prenatal and postnatal periods to address discomforts or concerns.  Many women are told that symptoms such as incontinence, painful intercourse, scar pain, pelvic or back pain, pelvic pressure or abdominal separation are normal during pregnancy or after having a baby; however, though COMMON, these conditions are not “NORMAL” and there are many ways to address these concerns.  Whitney loves teaching women ways to take care of themselves during pregnancy and how to get their bodies back after childbirth and she is also the mom of two little ones.

You can find her on Instagram @restoredphysique and Facebook (Whitney Sippl) and on her website restoredphysique.com

Resources related to today’s episode:

Hypnobabies

Dr. Whitney’s Prenatal and Postnatal Classes

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

12. Amanda’s Birth Story: An Empowered Unplanned C-Section Birth

On today’s episode, Elle and Taylor sit down with Amanda Armstrong, a Women’s Mental and Physical Health Life Coach specializing in anxiety, depression and postnatal recovery through her business Rise As We. She was raised in CA, but currently lives in Virginia with her husband, son, dog and countless house plants. Like many, her birth didn’t go according to plan, but in this episode, she shares how she used her physical and mental preparation to move through it all.

Amanda opens up and shares the emotional transformation she went through when she got pregnant quicker than she expected to. She talks about how, while she was grateful and happy to be pregnant, and excited to meet her baby, that getting pregnant so quickly, when she’d been prepared for it to take a little while was hard.

“I had a lot of mental work to validate that it was okay that it my hard looked different than other people, and to validate that it was a different flavor, and that it was still hard.” – Amanda Armstrong

“We’re humans. Our emotions are so complex! But they’re still valid.” – Elle Kennedy

Amanda also talks about gainly an above-average amount of weight for her body size during pregnancy, and Taylor discusses the medical concerns with “too much weight gain” and how it relates to gestational diabetes. The girls talk about how weight gain is not the be-all end-all of diagnosis for gestational diabetes, and weight changes in pregnancy can look WILDLY different for each pregnant person.

“There is a wide range of what is normal!” – Elle Kennedy

Amanda then shares her emotional birth experience, from how her labor starting with her water breaking through to her unplanned c-section, and all of the beautiful moments in between that led her to being peaceful and at ease with her decision.

“I had mentally prepared for, like, an hour of this, and not five hours of this!” – Amanda Armstrong

“’You’re pushing in a beautiful way! He’s just not moving. … We just need to have the c-section conversation.’ And I was devastated.” – Amanda Armstrong

“I was ready and I trusted my body to have a vaginal delivery.” – Amanda Armstrong

“I am so glad that you had a midwife there with you who was willing to have these conversations early and give you time to process and give you time to make that decision.” – Elle Kennedy

“I’m so grateful at this point for the meditation practice that I have, the meditation practice that I brought with me, to practice a level of acceptance.” – Amanda Armstrong

Amanda also talks about the things she did to continue making this birth feel unique and special and hers, even as she let go of control of the outcome. She discusses how she felt, her hopes for other pregnant people facing the same situation, and how she worked (and continues to work) on giving herself closure.

“This is the story that’s being written right now.” – Amanda Armstrong

“‘Before we head in there, you need to know these four things.’ She said, ‘One, you’ve already proven that you are an amazing mother, because you are choosing his needs over your wants right now, which proves that you are going to put him first time and time again.’ She said ‘Two, this is absolutely no failure on your part. You pushed – they were strong and they were beautiful, and I see no reason why you cannot have that vaginal birth that you want in the future. You have done incredibly well today. Three, you’re not only becoming a mother soon, but through all of this, you’re going to become a warrior as well. And four, you need to know that you’re not in any of this alone. We are all here, and we’ve all got you.” – Amanda Armstrong

“This is a huge, defining moment! Like, you don’t just leave home with a baby, you leave home a mother.” – Amanda Armstrong

“Acknowledging the disappoint, but also extending such a heart and such a hand to say ‘We’re here. We’ve got you.’” – Amanda Armstrong

“There is no such thing as failure in bringing a human into the world. A birth is a birth is a birth.” – Amanda Armstrong

“You leave with a scar that marks you as a warrior forever.” – Amanda Armstrong

“I created a space where I felt empowered internally, even amidst something I felt like I couldn’t control, and felt so empowered, and truly not alone.” – Amanda Armstrong

“I still tried to make it my own moment, and my own story.” – Amanda Armstrong

“I bought all of the things to recover from a vaginal delivery, and I just didn’t need those things. My recovery didn’t look like that.” – Amanda Armstrong

“You waited until you ready to hold that space for yourself.” – Elle Kennedy

Listen to the episode here.

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Today’s guest:

Amanda Armstrong is a Women’s Mental and Physical Health Life Coach specializing in anxiety, depression and postnatal recovery through her business Rise As We. She was raised in CA, but currently lives in Virginia with her husband, son, dog and countless house plants. She has a Master’s Degree in Kinesiology, specializing in Sport & Exercise Psychology and worked as a Personal Trainer at Google HQ in CA before leaving in 2018 to run her coaching business full time. She’s a lover of sunshine, nachos and a mint chip ice cream.

You can find her on Instagram @amandaontherise and on her website riseaswe.com

Resources related to today’s episode:

Amanda’s Core and Pelvic Floor Course (with C-Section Recovery Guide)

Family Centric Cesarean Birth Plan (if you are looking for more idea, it is also called a “Gentle Cesarean” or “Natural Cesarean”)

B.R.A.I.N. Acronym Printable

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

11. Comfort Care and Self-Care – with Jill Magoffin

On today’s episode, Elle and Taylor sit down with Jill Magoffin, a certified birth Doula and postpartum Doula with DONA INTERNATIONAL.  In addition to being a Doula, Jill is also trained as a New Parent Educator and Newborn Care Specialist. Additional Doula training has included courses such as Hypnobirthing and advanced Rebozo skills for birth and postpartum care. They discuss comfort care and self-care during pregnancy, labor and delivery, and postpartum.

Comfort care is making sure the birthing person is as comfortable as possible before, during, and after labor. It’s not necessarily pain medication or using different positions, but more along the lines of little things that make the birthing person feel comfortable. It is an extension of self-care – comfort care is someone else taking care of you in those ways. Some examples given in the episode include:

      • Massage
      • Essential oils
      • Heat/cold packs
      • Scratching their back
      • Rubbing their feet
      • Brushing their hair

What kinds of things make you feel calm? Do you like twinkle lights? What are your favorite colors/what colors feel calming to you? Do you like certain scents (diffusers or candles)? How can you tap into a sense of magic and wonder while you’re in labor? What birth affirmations really speak to you? What clothing makes you feel beautiful/comfortable/cozy/positive? Is there music or sounds that are relaxing to you (white noise, ocean sounds, thunderstorms, etc.)? What foods are nourishing, comforting, and filling for them?

Quotes

“I prefer that everyone have a healthy experience.” – Jill Magoffin

“It’s ok to ask for what makes you feel good.” – Jill Magoffin

“I have to remind my birthing people that they are in charge.” – Jill Magoffin

“I just urge anyone that’s having a child to prepare and really think about what relaxes them, and get those things.” – Jill Magoffin

“What’s the plan for your postpartum care? Who is in your village? Who is going to be offering to help? Are you going to assign them things to do? Do not let everyone just hold your baby!” – Jill Magoffin

“Your only job after you have a baby is to take care of yourself and that child. Everything else can be handled by someone else.” – Jill Magoffin

“There’s not one way of doing things. There’s not one way of birth. There’s not one way of feeding your baby. There’s not one way of swaddling. I mean, there’s a million ways. You have to do what works for you!” – Jill Magoffin

“Don’t be afraid to reach out for help.” – Elle Kennedy

“I think the partner participating [in comfort care] is just as important as the person giving birth.” – Jill Magoffin

Listen to the episode here.

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Today’s guest:

After spending most of her life in the corporate world, but attending the births of countless friends and family members, Jill finally realized her calling, and completed Doula training at Bini Birth in Sherman Oaks, CA.

Jill is a certified birth Doula and postpartum Doula with DONA INTERNATIONAL.  In addition to being a Doula, Jill is also trained as a New Parent Educator and Newborn Care Specialist. Additional Doula training has included courses such as Hypnobirthing and advanced Rebozo skills for birth and postpartum care.  Jill is a Certified Usui/Holy Fire III Reiki I & II healer.

Jill approaches her role with flexibility, kindness, humor, and compassion.  She is extremely passionate about making sure that the person giving birth is supported and advised of all their choices surrounding birth. Jill aims to achieve a safe, calm, and joyous experience of bringing their little one into the world.

Jill lives in Simi Valley, California with her beautiful, blended family of 4 children, and her loving husband Bryan.

You can find her on Instagram @jillmagoffin and Facebook at Jill Magoffin and on her website jillmagoffin.com

Resources related to today’s episode:

Rebozo

Kelila’s Birth Story

Rose’s Birth Story

Postpartum Plan – with Tourmaline Collective

Join our email list to access our freebies page, including our Self-Care Ideas List and our Printable Birth Affirmations pages. We have a few different versions. Some are perfect for putting up on the wall, and others are perfect for cutting out to keep in your pocket, wallet, or purse.

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

10. Courtney’s Birth Story: A Joyful Hypnobirth

On today’s episode, Elle and Taylor sit down with Courtney Riel Owens, a performer, a Hypnodoula, and is studying to become a Hypnobabies Trainer. Courtney shares the birth story of her older daughter, Hazel, her journey to becoming a Hypnodoula, and how Hypnobabies has helped her and many of her clients to have a peaceful, relaxed birthing experience.

Courtney shares how growing up with positive birth stories inspired her to seek out a positive birth experience of her own. She found Hypnobabies, and it led to a beautiful, joy-filled, positive birth experience with both of her children.

She talks all about her older daughter’s birth, how her background in dance and performing helped her during labor, and some fun quirky parallels between the birth of her daughter and her daughter’s personality now that she’s 8.

Courtney shares encouragement, funny anecdotes, and lively banter, as well as lots of information about how Hypnobabies can help facilitate positive birthing experiences.

Quotes

“I was really lucky. My mom had great birth stories. So I grew up with a different idea of what birth could be.” – Courtney Riel Owens

“I thought I was paying for a 6-week course, and as it turns out, I was paying for a course for my lifetime.” – Courtney Riel Owens

“I kept saying over and over, ‘I can’t believe you’re here.’” – Courtney Riel Owens

“It took a long time for me to feel LOVE.” – Courtney Riel Owens

“A lot of people feel really bad about themselves if they don’t feel that love toward their child immediately. It is really, really normal!” – Courtney Riel Owens

“You’re allowed to feel your feelings – but you’re not allowed to be mean.” – Courtney Riel Owens

“Self care can be boring! And that’s okay!” – Elle Kennedy

Listen to the episode here.

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Today’s guest:

Courtney Riel Owens is a multi talented performer (who can be seen hoofing it up around southern CA when not in these plague ridden times) and a Hypnobabies hypno-doula in the LA and Orange Counties.  She is currently studying to become a Hypnobabies instructor.  In her spare time she enjoys reading, writing, all things Disney, and tea; among a plethora of other things.  Also, not necessarily in that order.  Courtney has one husband, two kids, three dogs, and an affinity for knowing a little bit about a lot of things.

For pregnancy, birth, postpartum, or early childhood specific inquiries, you can reach out to her via email-  crobirthdoula@gmail.com or you can search for her under “Find a Doula” on hypnobabiesla.com and hypnobabies.com if you are looking for a Hypnodoula.

Resources related to today’s episode:

Hypnobabies

Hypnobabies LA

Carole Thorpe – Hypnobabies Teacher

Ep 5: Chiropractic for Pregnancy – with Dr. Taylor Garcia

Sue Walcott (Midwife – Northern California)

Birthing Pool

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC

9. Postpartum Plan – with Tourmaline Collective

On today’s episode, Elle and Taylor sit down with Allison Tartari and Maral Shabak of the Tourmaline Collective, which offers prenatal, postpartum, and birth services alongside a wellness team of holistic practitioners, to talk about Postpartum Plans. They discuss what a Postpartum Plan is, why it is essential to mental and physical recovery after labor and delivery, and how to go about creating one (along with tons of ideas about what to consider when making yours).

The goal of a postpartum plan to pre-plan a support system for the birthing person, baby, and partner for the weeks following delivery by anticipating their needs during the postpartum period, and figuring out ways to meet those needs before you’re in the thick of it. “One of the biggest reasons that women suffer from postpartum depression is a lack of sleep and a lack of well-balanced nutrition.” – Allison Tartari. They suggest that during the postpartum period, partners should check in with each other (and themselves!) several times a day to see how they’re doing, if their needs are being met, and what can be done to meet those needs. It may sound like overkill, but during the postpartum period where new routines are being established, it can be incredibly helpful to keep those lines of communication open.

Allison and Maral use Kimberly Ann Johnson’s Postpartum Plan to guide their clients through the creation of their own postpartum plan. It’s an extensive guide that asks pointed, specific questions for expecting parents to think about in terms of how they can handle situations and who they can call on for help in different areas. They suggest talking to your support people ahead of time. Check in and ask them if they would be available and willing to help in those specific areas (for example, some people might be totally fine coming over and helping clean your house for you, while others might be more comfortable cooking you a homemade meal and dropping it off, or being a listening ear when you’re having a tough time).

Ideas for what to include:

  • Who can you call when you are feeling overwhelmed?
  • Who will listen without judgment or advice?
  • What are your favorite/most nourishing meals? Can we delegate someone to organize a meal train for meals to be delivered/dropped off?
  • Is there someone who might be able to stay with you for a little while to help with overnights and that transition period?
  • Does your partner have someone to reach out to for emotional support?
  • What brings you joy and happiness? How can you implement those in small ways back into your life?

Quotes:

“Every single pregnant person on the planet needs a postpartum plan. Cuz you’re gunna get there! No matter what. It’s the one guarantee with pregnancy and birth is at some point, baby is gunna be outside of your body, and you’re gunna be in the recovery phase.” – Maral Shabak

“One of the biggest reasons that women suffer from postpartum depression is a lack of sleep and a lack of well-balanced nutrition.” – Allison Tartari

“Every time we evolve as a parent, and we become a parent again, we change. We need to give ourselves love and some slack and understand that things are gunna have to be different.” – Allison Tartari

“Nothing is returning to a pre-pregnancy state. That state is gone forever.” – Maral Shabak

“Intimacy is going to become about a lot of smaller actions, like sitting next to your partner, or the touch of an arm, or connecting and listening. Those are going to be the intimate moments that are really going to carry a relationship.” – Maral Shabak

Listen to the episode here.

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Today’s guest:

Allison Tartari and Maral Shabak of the Tourmaline Collective.

Located in the heart of Pacific Beach. Tourmaline, operated by 3 Licensed midwives, offers prenatal, postpartum, and birth services alongside a wellness team of holistic practitioners. Their team is made up of a naturopath, nutritionist, acupuncturist, herbalist, cranial sacral therapist, and pelvic floor therapist.

Their mission is to give holistic, evidence based care all while fostering community, and connection to the families we serve. In addition to medical and midwifery care they offer classes, support groups and education to the community. Most of these will be low cost or free, and will be supported by Thrive Community Wellness, a 501c(3) non-profit organization. They believe, to truly thrive, you must have all of your healthcare providers collaborating together to achieve the most optimal outcomes, using a whole body approach. They take pride in their work and are dedicated to providing a safe, beautiful, and tranquil wellness center.

You can find them on Instagram @tourmaline_collective and on their website tourmalinecollective.com or by phone at [NUMBER]

Resources related to today’s episode:

Tourmaline Collective featured on Noble Carriage Instagram

Tourmaline Collective Childbirth Education Classes

The Fourth Trimester: A Postpartum Guide by Kimberly Ann Johnson

Postpartum Support Groups

WARM Crisis Line

OC LGBTQ Center – Therapy

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Thrive Wellness Collective

Who are Elle and Taylor?

Elle Kennedy is a maternity, birth, and family photographer and doula based in Orange County, California. She’s a mother of two, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and an advocate for consent and respect for personal preferences during pregnancy, labor, birth, and postpartum. She homeschools, is polyamorous, loves tea and scones, and loves using her free time to create and bake.

Dr. Taylor Garcia is a Webster Certified Chiropractor located in the Orange County, California area, with a family practice that focuses on pregnant persons and babies. She is currently going through the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association’s certification program and plans to have that completes by 2021. While not a mama yet, she is the consummate “mom friend,” and hopes to adopt with her partners in about 5 years. She is part of the LGBTQ+ community and polyamorous. She believes in focusing on health and wellness from before birth, and using that as a firm foundation for health and wellness throughout life. She believes in the importance of connection and consent in all aspects of life. She is a dancer, a writer, a bookworm, and a fan of music and musicals.

Contact Elle:

Instagram: @elle.kennedy.photography

Website: ellekennedyphotography.com

Facebook: Elle Kennedy Photography

Contact Taylor:

Website: birthandbeyondchiro.com

Email: taylorjgarcia@att.net

Facebook: Dr. Taylor Garcia, DC